Mine's the same way, but my fans cycle with the compressor (stock setup). The car essentially runs at its "highway" temperature (just a couple needle's width cooler on the gauge) due to all the extra air being blown over the radiator. My accessories never seem to have any heightening effect on the coolant temp. Like Dave, the effect was the same on the original radiator and the new all-brass one. When my dirty evaporator sent me in circles with my A/C, I learned quite a bit in the process. To Bob: Marc is right about those pressure gauges. They are really the only way to know what's going on. I think I remember you blowing a hose once. This could indicate a restriction in the system, or not enough air flow over the condenser. Oh, and make sure that evaporator is clean! ;-) Jake Kamphoefner 1063 Dave Swingle <swingle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I see the opposite - I've noticed on my car that the temp gauge actually reads lower with the A/C on than with it off. It's not an electrical drop issue, I can see the temp rise and fall slowly. If turning on the air heats the engine temp appreciably you have other problems. In my case I have the fans wired to run continuously with the A/C turned on (they do not cycle with the compressor clutch), and I'm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/