Yes, I have the air bleeder installed from specialT-works great. Shouldn't this prevent any air that may be trapped in the system and shouldn't it be self bleeding? Again everything works fine, fans come on when they are supposed to and does not overheat. However no thermostat is installed-I don't what to leave it that way... Once I install the thermostat (the right way of coarse) it begins to overheat @ about 175F. No water in coolant pipe where to otterstat is located, no water circulation and fans do not come on-because no water in that pipe. Hoping a 3rd thermostat is the trick--can't think of anything else. Harold McElraft <hmcelraft@xxxxxxx> wrote: You're air-locked at the radiator. Take off the top vent hose at the radiator (passenger side top) until coolant starts to flow. Then follow the bleeding procedures in the manual. Harold McElraft - 3354 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, John Podlewski wrote: > Water bottle bubbles over cap removed, anytime the temp. reaches around 160F. No Water cirucalation after that point, Fans do not come on because no water in the coolant pipe where the ottostat is located downsteam of the water pump (New pump). Changed to new thermostat same result! > > Then I took out the themostat completely and everything is fine, > > What Gives, Anyone ever run into this before? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/