They are off of a 1980's Jaguar. HOWEVER... Get them from a vendor. I have tried several different aftermarket brands, and the whole pad keep snapping off the backing plate. The ones from the vendors are the only ones worth buying. -Dave Stragand VIN #05927 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/