All, I now have working AC in black beauty, Freeze-12, vendors don't get upset, I just wanted to try a $50 fix verses a $300 refill. And it works! Now let's see how long the charge lasts. If it leaks out, vendors will be hearing from me for parts. If it holds, guess what, a cheaper alternative for everyone for charging the AC system. Totally compatible with your R12 system, no need to change oils, what a relief that is. It is available from John H. at http://specialtauto.com Bernie To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/