You've got to remember where this guy comes from: Detroit. Take a look at "On a Clear Day..." JZD wrote that when he moved up to the 14th floor, people didn't fall out of line. Be it your suit color, the wallpaper or wood trim in your personal office, and even your way of thinking. Now you take someone whose lived in the enviornment for so long, and this is what you'll get. They'll share the same opinion simply to appease their peers. Regardless of how they may feel. Their lives are just that structured. Now the unfortunete thing here is that these opinions spill over into the public area. People like David E. Davis Jr. are "revered", simply because they have the power to make their voices heard. Not because of any actual knowlege their weight holds behind their spoken word. If you sound more confident in your lies than an opponent is in their truths, you will cause that other person to doubt themselves. Now imagine that you feed someone some misinformation on a subject that they know little to nothing about. They're gonna stick by that, because they've heard nothing else. And will repeat that same scraps of misinformation, so that they themselves can seem smart as well, on whatever particular subject. And even if a person does have knowlege about a subject, you tell them over and over again something, no matter how false, and they'll accept it as a truth, simply out of peer pressure, causing self-doubt. That's why so many people have rallied against the DeLorean car, company, and the man all these years. Everyone else says so, so why should anyone be outspoken at all? Peer pressure has a beautiful way of punishing upopular speach in a non-violent way, within a social construct. It's not about the money lost in the investment of DMC. As we all here found out a few years back, the DMC bankruptcy paid back investors unheard of amounts. Damn-near 100% of their cash investments. So no, it's not about the money. It's just a shared mentality of "Well, everyone else out there is kicking JZD in the ribs, so I guess they must be right in doing so. So gee, I guess I will too." That's all this is. Unpopular public opinion of our cars has stemed from negative media. Not any kind of first hand experience. As a matter of fact, the DeLorean car is still a bigger threat than ever to the automotive market. People like Davis have written it off for years as a bad car. So people out there who want to have image cars to impress others have shyed away from it. However, as we've seen in the past few years here, many people who are new to the car scene have chosen the DeLorean as their vehicle of choice. A younger, more rebellious generation, who easily snubb their collective noses at people like David E. Davis. Long before I ever got a DeLorean, people tried to tell me that it wasn't a good car. Told me it wouldn't be worth money. I read that it wasn't a highly respected car to such higher-up people. And I, like many others here, simply said that we didn't care. So we went ahead, and got DeLoreans anyway. We drive them and rack up the miles like there's no tomorrow. And we're pleased. BTTF may have attracted quite a few people to the DeLorean automobile, but the DMC-12 itself is what has kept so many loyal to it. The reason that many people like David E. Davis Jr. don't like the DeLorean isn't because they *know*, or even remotely *think* that these are bad vehicles, or that their creators are. No. They dislike cars like the DeLorean because they are a direct threat to the classic car hobby. We shatter the image that you have to be older, and more established to enjoy the car hobby. We're proving people like this guy wrong. The DeLorean has had an unbelivable rebound back in value, and collectability. Which proves wrong so many egotistical people, who said our cars' value and desirability would decrease. We prove their self-cherished opinions wrong. And it is because of that threat that we generate such negative press from these people! It's not easy think to have to be proven wrong, when you've built yourself up so much. I've read up a little on Davis here. If this man is so revered, so worshiped, and posseses such great knowlege about the in's and out's of the automotive industry as his own magazines proclaim, then why am I driving a 1981 DeLorean, instead of a "Davis" automobile? So much for putting one's money where one's own mouth is, eh? -Robert vin 6585 "X" --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx> wrote: > I agree, the article was pretty tasteless...but only because of the tone and > language. > I am willing to believe that most of what he said was true. > If any of you have seen the "Car Crash" video, or listened to anyone who > ever > had to be on the other end of his business you would hear these people bash > him. > All of this goes along with the statements I made a few weeks ago about the > way people feel about our cars, or, the way CAR people feel about our cars. > They feel the same way about JZD. > A lot of people lost a lot of money because of his endeavors. > - VB To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! 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