Rich, I have never bashed the DeLorean in public, or to a non-owner. The discussion we have here is for our ears only. The PRV itself is fairly reliable, but has a lot of problems as compared to a regular old American V8. Heck, pick any of them...from the old Ford flats to the chevy 350's. They are really simple and really strong. Have you seen the new Dodge SRT-4 Neon? The only other Dodge faster is the Viper. This might make a great engine for our cars! Do you have something against changing engines? Maybe you would care to explain what the reason for pulling a PRV and stuffing in a Grand National was Rich? I show the car and give out facts and try to educate people about the car by giving them facts and killing mis-information. I never talk bad about the car, and I take it to an average of 3 showings per month and pass out about 100+ flyers at each show. I am just trying to promote the car and to improve public opinion. My post was BITCHING about what I am hearing, and trying to do something about it instead of turning a blind eye. If I didn't like the car, love the car, eat and breath the car...... I would just get rid of it. I have no plans on doing that. So don't get so defensive! When it comes to DMCH wanting to sell engines, their motivation might possibly be that they have a 30 foot tall stack of them that is 30 feet deep. They want to sell engines at $6000+ per pop. I would say that is some good motivation. All in all, the PRV itself is a good engine if you have it properly maintained and upgraded, however reliability means nothing without horsepower and torque. It would make a great engine for say...a dunebuggy, or other 1500lb vehicle. As for the almost 3000lb. DeLorean we need at least 250HP to keep up with the average Ford Taurus. If you have a perfectly tuned PRV, you might have 130HP. Not very impressive. Listen Rich, I might not have been around as long as you and you might know a lot more about the engine than I do. I would be anxious to hear from you how to make our engines better rather than to be chastised by you. I know you have been doing a lot to promote the "good name" of the DeLorean. Speaking of which, my buddy just called me to tell me that he just got through watching Discovery channel and saw a DeLorean being run over by a tank while they called it a "failure".....yeah, heck of a good job promoting the car! (OK, that was a low shot) Just reminding you that sometimes our good intentions go straight to hell! - Videobob >From: "d_rex_2002" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [DML] Re: Strange VB car show behavior >Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:03:35 -0000 > >VB, > >The next time you wonder why some people in the DeLorean community >do not see eye to eye with you, re-read this "stuff" you posted. > >I'm sure the major vendors love to see "your opinion" about how you >think the DeLorean is unreliable and slow, in fact, the slowest car >on the road and your chances of breaking down or going up in flames >is highest in a DeLorean than most any other car you can think of. > >I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that no other car clubs >respect the DeLorean and that British clubs hate it. I guess this >must be from the "years" of displaying your DeLorean or maybe this >is just how some car clubs or British clubs think in Texas. > >I'm sure your conclusion "the PRV sucks" has equal merit behind it >due to your extensive research. I guess DMCH should stop building >the high performance version of the PRV, since they must already >know the PRV sucks and just start stuffing V8's into DeLoreans. > >As much as I hate to hear "the guy on the street" at car shows >providing mis-information about the DeLorean, the PRV, etc., it >is even more disturbing to think a DeLorean owner is displaying >his car and providing these type of opinions to car show patrons. > >As demonstrated in past posts, VB is the more than eager to tell >everyone about his achievements and all of his "good points", so >why would the same person focus on "your bad points" of a DeLorean >based upon stigmas, here-say and myths on reliability and "baggage". > >If you do not think your "opinions" have a negative impact on the >Delorean community / vendors, then feel free to call your "buddy" >Rob Grady to ask him question(s) about DeLorean stock certificates. >This post is not intended as a flame, just a dose of reality. > >Later, >Rich W. > [very long quote trimmed by moderator] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! 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