Hi Dave, Actually we do carry the same thing under the Winzer brand name. Wurth and Winzer are German companies owned separately by a pair of brothers who apparently compete with each other as they carry the same product lines! We have used Winzer and Wurth products in our shop for at least twenty years. It is listed on our website in the tab called Rubber door seals. http://www.pjgrady.com/lgspec.asp?id=3 We also carry Winzer Rubber Adhesive which is the best we've found (Sorry Randal!) for attaching all of the bonded rubber seals on the DeLorean. Another great product is 3M adhesive remover (Yea Randal!) We use these three products in our shop exclusively to attach and care for all of the DeLorean's many weather-strips and buffers. >From now until the end of August we will supply these products free ($38.85 value) on any order of our Complete Seal Kit Part #'s 114666GS or 114666GL so you can do a professional quality installation of your weather-strips at no extra cost. We also carry quality chemicals and fasteners for every part of your car that are too numerous to list on our site at this time. Our experience as the oldest DeLorean restoration shop guarantees you the right chemical for every application. Sorry for the plug but I felt obliged to answer Dave's statement ("This is something that the vendors ought to carry") completely and accurately :). Rob Grady P.J.Grady Inc. -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf of Dave Swingle Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 5:28 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Mode switch [was - Needed Badly: Button Clip] Better than petroleum jelly is some stuff called "Wurth's Rubber Care" - you probably have to get it online because there are not many retail places that carry Wurth's. It used to be sold at BMW dealers as "Gummi Pflege" (Elvis help me out here but I think that's German for "Rubber Care"). Some BMW places may still have it in stock. It's made for this sort of thing, and won't dry out like petroleum jelly and is light enough that it won't plug up the holes. This is probably something that the vendors ought to carry - it's great on the door seals too. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/