Not long ago Joe Lore AKA "DMC" Joe was a fixture on the both the DML and DMC Forum dispensing a lot of good advice with a friendly and calm demeanor. My guess is he became a DML favorite and Chris may receive some flak in defense of Joe. IMHO "DMC" Joe" used this trusted position to separate people from their money in ways that a court of law would find illegal. I too trusted Joe at one time and even loaned him several thousand dollars worth of DeLorean parts so he could perform repairs at the DCS in Cleveland 2000. He still owes my business about two thousand dollars and has made no attempt to pay this and other debts he owes to various people. At one point his own son said to me that Joe owes him "Ten Thousand Dollars"! The worst way to get ripped off is by somebody with a smile on their face while they're doing it. In short "DMC Joe" is a con artist who does not deserve anybodies trust. I promised Chris Bowman I'd back him up both in court and on the DMC Yahoo groups should he decide to post about his experience's with Joe Lore and I hope this puts to bed any claims against the validity of his remarks. I know Chris' statements to be true and correct. I know Joe had some very unfortunate personal problems and that's why I cut him some slack for years before my patience wore out. The time has come for the leopard to show his spots. Am I wrong Joe? Rob Grady ----Original Message----- From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Bowman Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:53 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] My DMC Joe Experience Hello, My name is Chris Bowman. I own Vin #3169. Some of you have expressed to me your interest in the status of my car and my problems with DMC Joe. For these reasons and because I depended heavily on this mailing list for information when I was trying to decide on a good mechanic to do work on my car; I am making this post and providing a link to a website with more detailed information. My desire is that no one else should unknowingly stumble into a business relationship involving trust with Joe LoRe’ / DMC Joe. The short story is, I shipped my car to Joe for repairs in 2000. I picked up the car in August 2004 and towed it back to Pittsburgh on a trailer behind a rented truck. Dan Plakosh and I worked on the car throughout the fall and winter of 2004-2005. I am happy to say my DeLorean is now finally in good shape. It was obvious to us that the majority of the parts and labor billed to my credit were not installed or performed. I made a claim against Joe in the Magistrate Court of Fayette County, Georgia for $8,796.70. Dan Plakosh and I testified in court on 5 May 2005. The judge found in my favor for $8,796.70 plus $66.00 court costs. I am now trying to recover my losses. I have had no response from my last letter to Joe dated 10 May 2005 requesting payment. The bottom line with Joe LoRe’ is: “Buyer Beware”. See http://www.geocities.com/cbowman3169/ to look at the documentation. Best regards, Chris Bowman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/