Try jumping the cold start valve with the CPR wiring -- grey plug (just like a hot start problem). If the engine starts, you've either got a problem in the wiring to the thermal time switch, or your new thermal time switch is bad, or the water pump isn't grounded somehow. All you're doing in this test is supplying a known good ground via the CPR circuit. You do have 12v from the starter solenoid going to the cold start valve, don't you? (It's the single wire with a bullet quick connect. Blue/Yellow I think?) Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus@xxxx> wrote: > Ok, So I have a had a bad cold start problem for a while that hs gotten worse. THe battery is great, and the starter cranks like a champ (just replaced both starter and solenoid) but it will not turn over unless I ground one of the wires to the thermal time switch. (If I ground one of the wires the starter seems deactivated, and if I ground the other one it starts right up, no problem, but I must unplug the thermal time switch and ground that lead to start the car every day. I just replaced the thermal time switch thinking obviously this would fix the problem, but it didn't, I still have to ground one lead to start cold, or else I am cranking forever. Any suggestions? > Joe P. > VIN 17167 6808 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/