CLEANING the undercoating? You obviously have more spare time than I. I own 5 Lincoln Mark V's. 4 of them came from the Northeast. 2 of them were undercoated with that black mess people use up there. Both of the undercoated cars suffered more road salt damage than the cars that were left without it: - Rusted through brake lines - Fender and quarter panel damage - Totally unremovable bolts My feeling is undercoating causes more problems than it solves. It's a nice theory, but in reality it actually traps the road salt that innevitably finds its way underneath, leaving it no way out except through the metal. Ordinarily, rust on major suspension components such as frames, control & support arms, springs, etc isn't a concern. They are usually made of very high carbon steel (or at least they used to be) and rust doesn't penetrate any further than the surface. DMC of course decided to make these components of low carbon steel (even the springs aren't hitting on much -- I cut mine down with a Dremel tool) so rust IS a concern. Impervious body sitting on a very susceptible frame & suspension -- go figure. BTW: If you think road salt is damaging, you should see the effects of beach salt. I absolutely refuse to buy a car from the coast or Florida. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kKoncelik@xxxx wrote: --> > IT takes a lot more to keep an undercoated car looking nice than it does a > non undercoated one. > > I spent much much more time cleaning Gigawat vs any other non undercoated > car. To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/