[DML] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE

["Dave Swingle" <swingle@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

My opinions FWIW

There's a lot of discussion on the concours list about the 
undercoating - but that's another story. IMO I don't like it because 
it can actually mask frame degradation, makes working under the car 
very unpleasant, and looks ugly. But that's just my opinion. I have 
not seen that it impacts the value of the car in general, but it 
certainly would to me. Use it as a bargaining point if nothing else.

The console part, if actually NLA NOS, is certainly available from 
one of the used-parts traders. The center steering wheel pad is 
probably fine as long as they didn't punch a hole in it for the 
emblem. Same for the console panel.

It's hard to set a price not having seen the car and not knowing your 
intended use/personal value. Do you value function over originality? 
I know you are a much better-than-average DIY mechanic so the 
mechanical stuff shouldn't scare you, in your case I'd be most 
worried about non-reversible modifications. The 26/28 figure seems 
like a reasonable price for a pristine, properly stored, un-restored 
car IF it is completly functional. If this is one of those "original" 
cars that still has the original coolant, brake fluid, mouse nests, 
and gasoline from 1984 in it, then it's not a fair price.

Recovering the seats seems to run in the $800 range now, 
unfortunately you'd probably need to recover them both to get a good 
match. 

The zip-ties on the cooling hoses may be original, you didn't say 
where they are but some of those are genuine DMC parts.

Dave Swingle


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentleman:
>  
> Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
>  
> Had to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close 
to a  
> purchase price. 
>  
> The car is a low mile 1983, with 928 miles on the odometer. There 
are a few  
> questions I have;
>  
> 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar. Some DeLoreans were 
prepared  
> at the docks in Belfast and the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea 
air. Is 
> this  a problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
>  
> 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to 
include  
> a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for the cooling fans. 
This part  is 
> no longer available?
>  
> 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from towing the car.
>  
> 4) the cooling system hoses have a plastic tie wraps holding the 
hoses  
> together.
>  
> 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat 
cover. It  is 
> noticeable
>  
> 6) center steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
>  
> 7) the shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it 
where  
> the 1981 clocks are located.






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