You really do have to pull the radiator out to get the shroud with the fan motors out. It is a little easier if you pull the sway bar out but not that much so I don't recomend it. When you do get the radiator out you will notice it will be green by the end tanks with some staining and corrosion. I do not recomend reusing a 24 year old radiator in that condition. The end tanks are plastic and they get brittle with age and heat. The crimps holding them onto the core also loosen up and leak. The neck on the left with the dummy cap splits. Your best bet if you are taking all this apart is to replace the radiator with a brass, 3 row and put new brushes into the fan motors. Of course you should also replace all the hoses and coolant. Be gentle with the condensor core, you do not have to disconnect the hoses to it, but you will have to replace the broken studs (the ones you WILL break taking everything apart). David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxx> wrote: > Oh, boy. How could I forget about that plastic fan shroud. Yeah, that > thing has to go, and it isn't fun. I didn't break any of my studs, > though. ;-) > > I still hold to my "you don't have to remove the radiator" line. Like > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/