Part of the problem is that most people think of "-" being the same as "ground" which is not always true. This is why the DMC has a sticker warning that the car is "negative ground" or "negative earth".... Yes, there are some cars (mostly British) out there that are "Positive Earth". It is all a matter of reference. Audio is AC. On the stock DMC radio, the "+" wire is the AC output of the system with ground as the reference. In a high power application, they bridge the amplifier. Essentially, they invert the AC signal and then amplify it. This inverted signal becomes the "-" with ground as the reference. If you hook up your speaker between "+" and "-" you will have twice the power as if you hook it between "+" and ground. If you hook the speaker between "-" and ground, you will also have sound but it will be out of phase. The problem is, if you hook up the "-" to ground (as would happen if you use the VB harness), you create a dead short. With no load on the amplifier, you will draw maximum current through it. It will get hot until it destroys itself. Try this: (Hard to explain over e-mail!) Draw a straight horizontal line. This straight line is "ground". Then, draw a SIN wave on top of the straight line. 0-180 deg is (at or) ABOVE the 0 line, 180-360 is (at or) BELOW the 0 line. This represents the "+" output on your stereo. The "power" is represented by the distance from the "ground" to the SIN wave. Next, Draw an inverted SIN wave. This represents the "-" output. Now, instead of "ground" being the reference, note the distance from "+" to "-". It is twice as much. Maybe someone can dig up a web link with some pictures. --- Ryan Wright <ryanpwright@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hey Marc, what is the actual difference between the > common ground & > floating ground when it comes to wiring? Any stereo > I've ever had (and > I don't buy cheap, low power garbage) just connects > black to ground. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/