If the camber is as far off as you say then you have to condsider the posablity of bad/worn/bent parts, bent frame or rusted frame. All of this should be fairly obvious. I just had a car done and the castor was off so we swapped washers on the upper control arm. There are 4 of them, 2 on each side between the frame and the control arm. We moved all 4 to one side and got it almost there. I finished it up with a washer between the lower control arm and the sway bar. We needed 3 shims on the left trailing arm and 4 on the right. Now the car rides great, even on the old NCT's. BTW the front toe is very sensitive, it took a couple of tweaks to get it "on the numbers" and the steering wheel centered. Before an alignment remember to check the tire pressures and take all the junk and extra weight out of the car. The "best" thing to do is to put sandbags in the car at the driver's position to simulate the driver's weight while adjusting the car. Ride height is important to setting up all the other adjustments. On most cars (including Deloreans) as the height changes the other settings change. They are not supposed to but they always do a little. There are a lot of alignment tricks that can be done to better maintain things, especially if you lower the car. This is why you really do have to go to a shop where the technician is more than just a wrench turner. A sharp technician can adjust the unadjustable. Don't forget if you do change (lower) the ride height you should re-aim the headlights. I don't know how the roads are in your area but I am afraid to lower a car with the roads around here! Roads-We don't NEED ROADS! (well, I still do, even with the turbo conversion!) David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <swingle@xxxx> wrote: > > > I've seen that - measuring ride height from the SS panels is not very > accurate. Between twist in the fiberglass and some randomness in how > the panels are attached to the car, many cars will measure this way. > Best measuring point is probably the frame just inboard of the lower > control arm mounting point. > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/