Steve,It would help to have more information such as, can you see the piston extend out or the pad move in when you press on the brake peddle. What is the thickness of the rotor and what is the thickness of the pad. Rotor may be to thin or the pistons just aren't moving in the hole or the pads have trouble. Bleeding the front is independent of the back since there are 2 pressure seal in the master. Delorean Brake power servo as listed on the web site: When your brakes are soft it's hydraulics, When they are hard it's the power servo or a vacuum leak. Rebuilt with a 5 year warranty. $124.95 exchange. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com -----Original Message----- From: basfe25 [mailto:dmcman73@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:28 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Front breaks not working Hi all, Been a long time since I posted here but here goes. I am still in the process of restoring my DMC and everything is going smoothly except the front breaks! I installed new/rebuilt calipers all around, replaced all break lines (I did a chassis of restoration) and installed a brand new master cylinder. I bled the master cylinder and bled all the calipers in sequence to what the repair manual states. My rear breaks work when I press my break peddle down but I am able to spin the front tires with the break peddle pressed. I've bled the front calipers like 30 times, tried a pressure bleeder and Rob Grady was kind enough to swap out my master cylinder I purchased from him and they still do not work! Is there a magic way to bleed the front breaks? I've bled tons of break systems before and NEVER ran into this problem! I've also went ahead and swapped out the calipers with another set of rebuilt ones and they still do not work. The only break system component that I did not replace was the break booster....could this be causing my problem? Just to trouble shoot, I disconnected the break line going from the master cylinder going to the front breaks and put compressed air into the lines and sure enough the breaks locked the rotor as they should. This is the only thing that is keeping me from test driving it on the road!!! My next test, I was going to try to connect the front break lines to the rear breaks port on the master cylinder to see if that would work....but that required that I bend the tubes and I don't want to risk cracking them. Thanks in advanced, Steve To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/