Hi As not to create to many messages on the same topic I will answer to three posts in this one message. First was Dave: > Anything is better than letting it fill up with road dirt<SNIP> > I'm not a big fan of filling in the holes, my thought is that when > the filler ultimatly breaks down it will hold moisture in there even > moreso. **** The good thing about silicone is that it hardens by absorbing moisture from the surroundings. It is also pretty durable and stable for a long time. I don't think it will break down anytime soon. The one that I used is good for temperatures from -65 to +315 degrees C (-85 to 600 F). Then I painted it with high temp paint, so even if the silicone breaks down the paint should hold the moisture away. I think I'm safe > The cover deflector plate is a great idea! Did you happen to take any > pictures of that? **** No, I did not take pictures of the plate. I fabricated the plate out of 1mm think sheet of aluminum. A lot of cutting and grinding and the plate fits in the valley covering the entire area. It's a weird shape but it fits perfectly. Even without the silicone it would sit at a correct angle to make any water run off to the back. You can see it in my pic. It's painted black. ----------------------------------------- Next was David Teitelbaum > I don't think it is that big a deal. If you replace the hoses and > seals every 20 years or so you and don't leave the car outside and use > premium anti-freeze and change it once in a while it will be fine.<SNIP> **** Well, its not just antifreeze that causes the corrosion in the valley. I found a lot of dirt and water in there. Of course the antifreeze will speed up the process greatly but just water and dirt will do it too. Besides, you say that if I change the hoses and not leave the car outside.... then you should add "and don't drive it in the winter". But the thing is I love the car for what it is - A CAR. I drive it as much as I can because I love it so much. It was meant to be driven. I drive it in the rain, snow and I do leave it outside sometimes. I have an interesting short movie clip that shows how I enjoy driving it on snow. I will make it available when I find a place to upload it. Anyway, I drive the car and I want it to last as long as possible. That is why I filled up those holes and made a plate to cover the valley of death. ---------------------------------------- Next was Jeremiah > That's pretty cool, Tom - nice job! **** Thank you :) I'm proud of what I did. I decided to go with silicone (I did think about JB weld) because it stays 'soft'. I thought about thermal expansion and figured that silicone will be much better. I will allow the metal around it to 'work' with changing temperatures and not break off of the surface. Then I fabricated a plate just to make sure that nothing gets in there :). That will be all for now.... The valley of death is no more for me :) Tom Niemczewski jamesik@xxxxx VIN 6149 (in Poland!) Save the dream so you can live the dream... > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom" <tomciodmc@xxxx> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone >> >> While working on my engine (water pump rebuild) I decided to > something about >> the valley of death. Even though the engine has low miles and it <SNIP> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/