David Levey asked me to forward this to the DML. Though it comes from my email address the words that follow are not mine, they are David's. - Mike Substelny My experiences with John DeLorean and thoughts about his passing… I usually don’t contribute too much to the DeLorean internet board, however the occasion of John’s passing merits a few comments and observations. Looking back, it seems that there are four stages in the evolution of the DeLorean automobile collector’s saga. The first stage was the hype and planning that went into the creation of the company, from the original design and concept, the selection of dealers, the excitement around the building of the factory and the first few prototypes, which was the topic of heated discussion some weeks ago. Perhaps the earliest incarnation of this vision can be traced back to his book “On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors,” which surprisingly was not mentioned in any of the obituaries I read. The second stage consisted of the first generation of original DeLorean owners. Those that bought them new through the dealer network to the period of Consolidated buying and re-selling new DeLoreans in the mid-80’s. This is when the first DeLorean clubs started, the BTTF hype was still fresh and the DeLorean was still a “new” car. Many of us on this site are a part of the third stage, which is the collector market for the car, after the factory closed and Consolidated stopped selling the “new” DeLoreans out of Columbus, Ohio. It is we who have produced and bought upgrades and places like PJ Grady, Ed Bernstein and then later DMC Houston remanufactured parts. As owners, we took on the responsibility to keep up our cars and to maintain the legacy of the company in the long decades after the factory closed. With the death of John, I think we enter a new, fourth era. Unlike most products today, the DeLorean is named after a person. Like Henry Ford. Walter Chrysler. Clement Studebaker. John Willys. Alexander Winton. Or Preston Tucker. For good or ill, our cars will forever be associated with John DeLorean’s name. With his death, the car company that once was can now be written into history. We are truly now in a time and at a place that our cars and John’s legacy become written into this historical nomenclature along with the other great names of car history. With John’s death, a thoughtful review of John, his accomplishments and his cars can truly be done. It really couldn’t happen before now because John was always involved and interested in new ventures, including, as many of you know, reviving the DeLorean. Some of you who knew him may have, like I, received his pitch in person or perhaps have a design-concept of the new car given to them. Perhaps some of you bought a watch. It was all a bit pie in the sky, even at the time, but it is part of the legacy of John DeLorean, of which the DeLorean DMC-12 is the crown jewel and perhaps most important accomplishment of his public life. For good or ill, there are no more chapters to be written in this saga, only reflections, analysis and an accounting of accomplishments of the past. I am very glad to have played a small part in reuniting John with his cars and his fans. As many of you know, for many, many years, even before I owned a DeLorean, John shunned the collecting circuit. Perhaps the timing was simply auspicious, but I began working on his nephew’s political campaign here in Cleveland in I think 1999. John agreed to do a fundraiser for Mark at the Westwood Country Club, which I helped organize. I invited a few DeLorean owners from the area to come to the event and to meet John. I knew that for them, as it was for me the first time I met this icon a real treat. Among those who came were Mike Substelny, one of the moderators of this list and Ken Koncelik, who heretofore had not met John. Since then, I have had the chance to give John a ride in my car, to host him here in Cleveland, to visit with him, to have a few smokes and drinks. I can’t say I knew him as a close friend, but they are experiences and times that I won’t forget. They are in a way “larger than life” because John, for all of his faults was larger than life too. Of course the meeting between Ken and John DeLorean resulted in a meaningful friendship and John’s participation in the Cleveland DeLorean event. In my opinion, in the past decade, Ken’s contributions to the DeLorean collecting circuit are perhaps only second to DeLorean Houston’s evolution as an organization in importance to the preservation of our cars. Part of Ken’s legacy has been the continued involvement of John, Kathryn and the family in our family of collectors and enthusiasts. No one who joins us after this last week will be able to say they knew John DeLorean the man. They only can know the legacy from now on. Those of us privileged to know John DeLorean will reflect on his sharp mind, his ready smile, his biting wit and his sense and spirit of adventure. Some of this may have been dimmed by the lawsuits and by the post DMC mess, but it was never diminished and quickly rose to the surface with a few drinks, with a deal on the table or with friends (who always picked up the bill!). It is now up to us to write the history and to keep the legend alive. David Levey To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! 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