I have made many suggestions in the past, and they have been ignored.. Which is not a big deal. My issue is not with having a competition of cars to say which one is "the perfect example of how a car left the factory". The problem is that because a given car may win this competition does *NOT* make it the "best of the best" as so many people claim. Take a concours winner, put some decent tires on it, fix all of the electrical problems, replace all of the 20+ year old parts that deteriorate from age, maybe even put some of the suspension and performance improvements that have been developed over the years, even one of those stainless steel frames, then MAYBE you will have the "best". The only reason someone buying a DeLorean would care if it has a "Delco" battery instead of an Optima would be if they want to win a trophy... And make sure you have your clock set right, because this important detail can make your car loose the competition and NOT be "the best of the best". A otherwise perfect car that has not won the Concours is worth less than an identical one that has.... simply because some self-appointed authority said so. IMHO, the entire concept of that is unfair, and flawed. There is no way I am going to change it Mike, there is money and ego at stake and the people who are served by this competition will never want to give it up.... So all I can do is "whine" about it, and maybe a few lurkers on the list will say to themselves "Yea, that guy may be annoying, but he is right!". --- mike.griese@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > Which is most of the world. Like it or not, the > car collector hobby likes to have benchmarks to > measure against. Rather than whining about it > all the time, why don't you help improve the > judges manual? > > -- > Mike > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/