You are missing the point. As you mentioned, if every component in the cooling system is operating at spec and there are no leaks at any of the components that connect to the cooling system than there is no need for an air bleed device at the thermostat. Unfortunately in the real world this is not always the case. When you consider the number of connections and components in the cooling system sooner or later there will be a leak. Any leak in the system will cause air to be drawn into the system which will eventually collect at the thermostat leading to an engine overheat condition. It's easy for people like yourself, who can easily diagnose, replace, and maintain the components you mentioned. Unfortunately for many owners, especially the ones that are distant from knowledgeable service centers or don't service their own cars a loose clamp could cause an owner to be stranded in his DeLorean. Worse yet engine could suffer permanent damage You when you said "The BIG problem is too many cars don't have a tight cooling system." You're exactly right; that is why the Overheat Protector is such a valuable item. The overheat protector is safety device and does just what it says; it will prevent the engine from going into an overheat condition if air is drawn into the system. The side benefit of the device is that it eliminates the need to manually air bleed the cooling system. DMC Joe --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > > > As good as the idea of a continuous bleed off the top of the > thermostat housing is it isn't required. If you properly bleed a > "tight" cooling system it just isn't needed. The problem comes when > you either do not properly bleed the car (which for the thermostat is > very easy) or you have leaks in the cooling system that allow air to > enter as the system cools off. From my experience (which isn't as much > as Joe's) the bleeding part is not that difficult but many cars are > not done properly anyway. The BIG problem is too many cars don't have > a tight cooling system. They are still running on many origional hoses > and seals. The systems leak. So instead of "biting the bullet" and > doing what is necessary it is very tempting to add an "Overheat > Protector". IMHO instead of doing the overheat protector do the Master > Water Pump Kit, a new radiator, and a metal header bottle. With an > upgraded fan relay and the relay upgrade kit you will have a > bulletproof cooling system. Of course the overheat protector is a > fraction of the price so people will continue to stick a "band aid" on > the cooling system and think it is fixed. The overheat protector by > itself is not bad, not having a tight cooling system IS. In fact in > this case the overheat protector was not even needed, it turned out to > be a defective thermostat. > David Teitelbaum > vin 10757 > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/