I'd relate de-emissioning to rural vs urban rather than any specific geopolitical entity... De-emissioned cars driven recreationally are far less hazardous to the environment than fully emissioned ones driven daily in commuter traffic. Length of American journeys is also a factor -- environmentally sensitive Europeans existed into the late 80's without emissions because their cars were simply driven shorter distances (European automobile use now approximates America circa 1970's, while American journeys have nearly doubled since then). Note that increased American automobile use is largely due to suburban sprawl -- again an urban issue. Rural driving patterns have remained fairly constant over the decades. Traffic congestion is another urban rather than rural phenomenon. That said, as an owner of a catalytic converter-less DeLorean, with dual 2" exhaust streams, the effect of reduced back pressure on performance is dramatic. Just as dramatic is lowered exhaust system temperature (the only heat shield I run is under the passenger side manifold). Substituting a gutted converter won't overcome limitations of the Y pipe, or small tubing diameter, but it certainly is worth a $50 investment. Do yourself a future favor and install it with stainless nuts. Depending on the amount of road time your DeLorean sees, and the size of your yard, there's a very good chance your lawn mower will actually produce more pollution... Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Dave Swingle" <swingle@xxxx> wrote: > > > Also related to the #2466 restoration project - in the process of > taking things apart I noticed that the prior owner had emptied out > the catalytic converter (argh!). Must be a North Carolina thing. > > That will never work here for emission testing, or most places that > this car is likely to end up, so I'm going to replace it with a real > one. If anyone that lives out in the boonies wants this empty one > cheap (instead of ruining a perfectly good $200 converter for such > experimentation), let me know. ($50 shipped anywhere) It's in fine > shape otherwise, no broken studs, etc. > > Dave S (swingle(at)dmcnews.com) To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/