Very common for a factory to outsource finishing work on cars. Many send their cars to shops to have sunroofs cut in before delivering to a selling dealer. DMC was going to have all the cars go through Legend Industries for the turbo install. All these cars would still be considerd "Production". The fact that the factory did not do all the work on the production line does not mean the car was not a "production" car. Another example is the fact that most (if not all) Deloreans went through QAC. Even that cannot change the status of a "production" vehicle. The 83's were handbuilt after the factory closed down. Again these are still considered "production". At this point the only way you can say a Delorean is NOT a production car is if it has a vin below 500. Some cars with vin's above 500 may have special status but I do not believe you can call them "Pre-Production". Some buyers may call their 83 Delorean "RARE" in an advervetisment to sell their car but in reality they are no rarer than any other Delorean. Some may consider a low vin (above 500) special because it was origionally assigned to a company offical. This does not make it "pre-production". This may make it special because of it's history (provanance) but it does not make it "pre-production". IMHO the only way you can make the claim preproduction is if it has a vin # lower than 500 or some other special designation that is not a vin # above 500. Pilot 25 is a pre-production car and rightly so. As boring as this may be to some it may mean a lot of $$$ to others. RHD cars are special all by themselves. There are not many and the conversion is custom and one-of which is expensive. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx> wrote: > > > I'm sorry you're bored, Dan. Let me get things exciting for you, by > throwing a little more gasoline onto this discussion. > > Now that we've established that anything built after VIN #500 is NOT > a facotry pre-production vehicle, let's tackle the other issue of RHD > cars, and why I totally agree with Chris Parnham. > > Since their completions were not products of a functioning production > l To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/