I happened to visit VIN 500 at the Crawford Museum Saturday night. Here are a few other details: VIN 500 was donated by Jeff Abrams, a Consolidated executive, not purchased by the Crawford. VIN 500 is displayed with its factory window sticker, just like any production car at any new car dealership. The VIN on the sticker matches the VIN on the dashboard. I doubt that pre-production cars get such stickers. To me the window sticker is clear evidence that VIN 500 and every DeLorean thereafter are "production" DeLoreans. - Mike Substelny Koncelik@xxxxxxx wrote: >John and I had this conversation years ago in Cleveland when we had the show >at the Crawford. That question was asked a few times if my memory is >correct. >The first production >HEAR THIS >PRODUCTION >car was bought by the museum to have as the FIRST DeLorean off the >PRODUCTION line >It has vin 500 and it had at that time I think 8 or so miles on it. >The museum has this car and its claim to fame is that it IS the first >PRODUCTION CAR off the line. That means it was meant to sell because it was bought >by the Museum. > >So if Vin 500 is the FIRST PRODUCTION car and John had said that VIN 500 was >the beginning of production of the DeLorean Then that is good enough for me. > >These cars were to be sold. Vin 501 and 502 were done to help promote the >turbo and then these cars were to start rolling off the line (slow production >at this point) but sold. >I saw two more of these cars in Columbus and the owner was telling me they >were pre production cars but he bought them off a dealer I believe. The vin >tags were a bit different but that was about the only thing I could see that was > anything significant. > >So I hope this helps as John himself considered VIN 500 to be there first >Production car. >There were many changes in there first 100 cars as they did not build many >per day and made changes as they found issues. > >Ken > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/