Tom - this is an age-old question. What makes one car more important/valuable/desireable than others? If you look at the cars that have been pulling the really big money at Barrett-Jackson, they have some characteristics in common that aren't common to the DeLorean. Probably the biggest difference it paint. Most of the cars at B-J are carrying finishes that are miles better than the cars ever had from the factory. This is every visually appealing, and most of the bidders understand the time, effort, and money it takes to put that kind of finish on a car. All DeLoreans have the same brushed stainless finish. If a DeLorean car has been painted, it is generally seen as an effort to cover up damage - not the message to convey at a top-end auction. You won't see vastly over-restored DeLoreans like you do other, steel bodied cars. Because of that, they will always be seen as "just used cars". Another big difference is performance. You don't see many six-cylinder Mustangs or Camaros pulling big numbers. All the high dollar cars have the large diplacement, high performance engines. These cars typically were rarer when they were new, which also increases their current value. The DeLorean had no engine options, and we all know about the relative lack of horsepower. Put 5 DeLoreans next to each other, and the general public will have problems telling one from another. The variety of options, colors, bodystyles, drivetrains make other cars much more personal. As an aside, I think this is the primary reason that the DeLorean was always doomed to failure. People who care about cars in general don't want their car to look just like everyone elses. Provenance is the next biggest difference. The DeLorean has no performance heritage - in fact it's heritage is just the opposite. DeLorean set out to build an ethical sportscar. This is the antithesis of sports cars - they are ostentatious and have very short shelf lives when they are new. Sports car owners - and I'm generalizing here - are always looking for the next good thing. Faster, flashier, better handling - first time owners just don't keep cars as long as the DeLorean lifespan was intended to be. Sometimes, cars that have been in recent movies can experience a bounce in value. Eleanor from Gone in Sixty Seconds, the Bullit Mustang, Don Johnson's hemi 'Cuda from television are examples. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your point of view), the DeLorean is best known as the Back to the Future time machine, which is more of a cartoon image than a desireable car. Another problem is that one of the main themes of the movies was overcoming all of the reliability issues with the car - hardly a good image. There are exceptions to these observations. Lotus has a stellar Formula 1 history, along with sports car racing in general, however Lotus cars tend to occupy the low end of the sports car market, even with performance, handling, racing history, eye appeal, and movie history all seemingly in the right categories. -- Mike -------------- Original message from "Tom Porter" <treehouse2000us@xxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > > > I am scratching my head, why on earth are these things so cheap? To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/