Are you sure the big O rings on your U pipes are the right size, and in good condition? Make sure you have spacers behind each one, and that the spacers are located towards the U pipes, not the throttle plate housing. FWIW I never could get a 100% seal on mine, so I made a custom "figure 8" gasket to force the O rings a little bit closer and also seal the aluminum mating surfaces. The nipple you were blowing through is ported vacuum. On the PRV it never closes (is located upstream of the throttle plates). When the throttle plates open over it, vacuum is allowed through (dropping with overall decreasing engine vaccum). If you sprayed soapy water on the upstream side (towards the air sensor plate) of course you'd see bubbles. The throttle plate shaft is made of steel. The throttle plate housing is made of aluminum. Rotating motion will inevitably wear oblong holes over time. Sorry (happens on carburetors too). Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, JDub <doki_pen@xxxx> wrote: > > The stop screw is backed all the way out. > > I tested for leaks in the butterflies today. Here's > what I did: > > I took off the throttle body and fed 5psi of air in to > the vacuum port on the bottom of it. While holding > the throttle body down on a piece of cardboard I > sprayed soapy water down on to the butterflies and > could see bubbles coming from all around them and from > the shafts on the left and right sides. I still don't > know if this is enough of a leak to make the engine > idle high, what do you think? Should the shafts seal > %100? > > Jon > > > --- David Teitelbaum <jtrealty@xxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The most likely reason for air to be getting past > > the throttle plates > > is that the stop screw on the throttle arm is not > > adjusted properly > > allowing the plates to be cracked open a little. You > > might also have a > > decel valve that is dirty and leaking. They are > > those little thingies > > with the springs on the throttle plates. They should > > move freely and > > seal tight. > > David Teitelbaum > > vin 10757 > > > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, JDub <doki_pen@xxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > So I did a little test today, I put a piece of > > > cardboard between the throttle body and the air > > > metering unit. I hooked back up the idle speed > > motor > > > and the car idled perfect! Right on 775 RPMS. So > > I > > > now know the problem is with air getting by the > > > butterflies in the throttle body. Do you think > > it's > > > possible those spring loaded little thingys could > > be > > > defective? I guess it could still be air slipping > > by > > > t > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating > > team, please address: > > moderators@xxxx > > > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for > > sale see www.dmcnews.com > > > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/