Slight clarification: 13 degree BTDC base time is due to the hobbled DeLorean ignition distributor (one centrifugal counter weight disabled), not PRV engine design. Exact same engine (B28F) is base timed at 10 degrees in a Volvo. DeLorean has a flatter advance curve, which requires moving all sparks closer to cylinder bottom. I'm guessing DMC did this for emissions. North American Volvo's used EGR and air injection, both missing from Dunmurry's design. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bruce Benson" <delornut@xxxx> wrote: > > The ignition process starts at the most opportune time to get the force of > the explosion to drive the piston down. In the DeLorean's case the > hemispherical head design, which acts to control the burn rate and direct > the energy produced, along with 87 octane fuel requires the ignition burn to > start at 13 degrees before top dead center. Thus, by the time the crankshaft > rotates the final 13 degrees and the piston is at top dead center the > optimum force is developed to drive the piston down. When a faster burn fuel > mix is introduced the whole scenario can change. The optimum force of the > explosion can happen too soon before top dead center. When, for example, a > turbocharger is introduced into the mix the intake temps rise simply because > of the exhaust element being used as a power source and the fact that temps > rise as the incoming air is compressed. When you mix that with a low octane > fuel you have a more volatile mix that will have an uncontrolled burn.You'll > put a downward force on the piston while it still needs to get to TDC. The > result is loud pinging and if you don't back off the throttle you'll soon > end up with anything from cracked rings to holes in pistons. Needless to say > this is all puts a lot of extra strain on the piston rods, crankshaft and > related bearings. Sometimes, if carbon deposits build up in the cyl head > compression is raised and the engine pings on low octane fuel. This can > happen if ,for extended periods, you've used high octane fuel in an engine > designed for low octane fuel. The slower burn causes the carbon build up and > in a way the car has developed a dependency on high octane fuel. > > Bruce Benson > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxxxxxxxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dmcnews-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/