In a message dated 1/16/04 8:54:22 PM Central Standard Time, CBL302@xxxx writes: My point here is you cannot judge a part(or drivetrain) by outside appearences,just cause something looks dull and ugly,doesn't mean,it is not a perfectly functioning part or item.(it's what is on the INSIDE that counts!!)Hope this makes some sense. Claude 00570 <<<< True, but unfortunately most of us are trying to make our cars look brand new, not 20 years old. especially true for interior parts. As for parts the average person doesn't see, a clean bright drivetrain and components is much more impressive and gives the feeling of top-quality - especially at car shows where an owner is attempting to show off how awesome DeLoreans are. who wants to show a car with dull and ugly parts? Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]