Hey, yes definately we (ETDOC) do still exist. And yes, you are correct the website is way overdue for updates. We are going to get that back inline shortly. Also, we are in the beginning stages of planning our next event. It's real prelimenary right now, but there is a possibilty of going to a large road course track (over 3 miles long). When I know more I will let everyone know. ETDOC still lives, but as always, we are as unorganized as they come and proud of it. Will let you know when plans materialize, and yes come to Pigeon Forge for the big show. John Weaver ETDOC RED DMC #10527 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]