In a message dated 12/25/03 1:30:53 PM Central Standard Time, hispanicangeleyes@xxxx writes: My question - what the heck happened? Did I just not ever tighten it down right the last SEVEN attempts? Did I just not get a good connection? Was my battery on its last leg? Can someone give me a tip to two to keep from establishing a channel so I don't see those sparks again..? Would the battery kill switch save me this aggravation? I was very happy to see my car behave, but I don't want to go through that again. If it won't tighten down all the way, you obviously stripped the bolts for the battery and should replace them - in fact, the battery ITSELF could be stripped, and you might need a new battery or else you'll never get a straight, tight connection. consider replacing the cables too, and save yourself the aggravation of ANOTHER thing to try to F* with while fixing all the other problems on the car. a battery switch will keep you from ever having to remove the cables again, reducing the likelihood of restripping new parts. spend the money and fix it once the RIGHT way and don't worry about it again, that's my motto. BTW, i still suggest you do as much work as possible on your car yourself before you send it out to a vendor. you will learn so much more about your car and you will become an authority in your own right, not to mention get a lot more work done for less money (but at the expense of needing more time). Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]