Besides Jim Stricklands bolt breaking I've heard of one other. If you check out the ad at the bottom of the page for the poorly designed joke http://www.wcnet.org/~delorean/page_layouts/Bauerle_Brackets.html This car wrecked because of a broken bolt. Shannon Y 16506 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/