Some people claim Volvo "fixed" reported oil passage problems with B28, but one of my factory manuals covering both blocks -- which goes into great detail of differences in pistons, valves, and camshafts -- makes no mention of any difference in engine oiling system. I think passages are the same. I also think many people who experience lubrication problems simply failed to change their oil regularly. Was recent discussion in another DeLo Group about oil changes. Some owners felt 7 quart capacity enabled longer than normal interval between changes. Others felt oil changes were only mileage dependent, not age dependent (can leave oil in sparsely driven car for years). I strongly disagree about both. Old oil, or heavily used oil, does not flow well, can become "clumpy", and is reportedly acidic. Not only is an oil change one of the cheapest and easiest procedures to perform, but I think is key to engine longevity. My change interval on all cars is 2,500 miles BTW. Have none logging less than that at least every 9 months, so I don't worry about seasonal oil changes. Am indeed very happy with my French PRV, but don't think Swedish rendition is as bad as that Brickboard quote made it seem. You'll notice on those Volvo bulletin boards that owners either love B27/B28 and get hundreds of thousands of miles from them, or hate them and lament the day they bought a 60 series (no one noncommittal in the middle). I suspect difference is as simple as routine maintenance... Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rbrogren@xxxx wrote: > Volvo ended up screwing the oil system and therefore the Volvo PRV V6 which > can be found in the DeLorean (it has a Renault transmission however) is not > exactly the most durable thing around. How about the French versions then? They > are the B20's of V6 engines, the blocks are virtually indestructible ( quarter > million miles is no big deal for these, mine is approaching this mark ) and > pack a quite nice punch. At 2.7L size, the Renault generates 144hp with K-Jet > FI and Peugeot is right there with them. Not bad for something designed in the > 70's. > > Okay, so the HP ratings don't vary that much, but the diffrences in > reliability are dramatical. True, similarities exists too, and costly repairs are just > that. When this puppy blows it'll be the simplest choice to drive it off a > bridge or something, also for the reason that anything that says 'Jaeger made in > France' should be gutted out and thrown into the lake. > > Allrightey.. all done with venting, thank you for all of those who managed to > read all the way down here. Now hopefully you remember in the future that > it's the Volvo PRV that has the reliability problems, not it's french > counterparts. > > > -Matti Ronkko, > Finland > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]