Thank you John, David, and everyone else that replied! I ordered caliper rebuild kits so when those arrive I should be ready to rock and roll. Thanks again everyone! Jon -----Original Message----- From: John Hervey [mailto:john@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:25 AM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [DML] Newbie says hi Jon, Welcome to the Delorean World. Jump in the sauna is always warm and comfy. Brakes: calipers are 20+ years old and full of gunk, master cylinder seals are hard and cylinder is full of old fluid and rust, brake lines old, Dot 4 is most likely old. If a complete brake fluid transfusion doesn't do it, then is replacement time. Not trying to be negative BUUUUT, it's all old. John Hervey http://www.specialtauto.com/delorean-parts/brakes-rotors.html