In a message dated 12/8/03 12:11:57 PM Central Standard Time, dmc_12_2180@xxxx writes: I read the cold start advice given in the technical advice section in DMC news, and checking the Thermo-time switch didnt work, for me ,, what next? what do you mean by 'didn't work'? does it fire at the proper temperature for the proper time? please be more specific - this is an easy one if we know the problem. Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]