In a message dated 11/13/03 7:50:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, videobob@xxxx writes: > One quick stop or turn and SPLASH! > I have never spilled a drink in my Taurus. Must be different than the drink holder in our Taurus wagon, "for soft cups only." Hit a bump and the flimsy little loop hiccups and drops a can thru to the floor. In my D, I lift out the ashtray and just twist it in. No probs so far. Wayne 11174 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]