In a message dated 10/25/03 6:47:37 PM Central Standard Time, webmaster@xxxx writes: > These are 5" drivers from memory and the > fit is still tight. Sound quality is still poor, even with the Dynamat > (that's all the silver stuff), though I'm not sure if it's the result of > the speaker not having an enclosure, or the Kenwood head unit. To anyone who is thinking about upgrading their DeLorean sound system, i highly recommend looking at my system i built last year. A full write up was in the 2nd issue of Gullwing Magazine and a brief is shown on my car webpage <A HREF="http://members.cardomain.com/soma576">http://members.cardomain.com/soma576</A> 5" drivers are intended for mid to upper range frequency handling and it is impossible to get a decent setup with only 5's in the back. the rear speakers should be producing a wider range than the front to fill in frequencies in the front with less amplitude. your front soundstage is of primary concern than the front, which is where the majority of sound should be produced (with the rear as fill-in). for a good system on a budget, i would recommend replacing the stock head unit with a top-quality receiver, replacing the dash speakers with some quality coaxials, installing Don Steger's kick panel speakers in the wheel wells, and disconnecting the stock 4x10's and replace with a couple of 6x9's or 8" full range drivers in seperate boxes on the rear shelf. this should run you about $650 or so, depending on what quality you buy. you will have to find a way to keep the boxes from rolling around and you may not like the look of non-stock parts sitting there, but it will be many times better than trying to utilize the rear stock locations. reasons why the stock location in the rear is terrible: 1. no baffle or way to isolate rear of speaker from front of speaker (main reason why it sounds like crap) 2. interior panel with grill is flexible and introduces distortion 3. space is too limited to provide any decent sized driver anyway (decent for rear fill is 6.5" and bigger) 4. speakers aren't even pointed the right way and results in frequency cancellation the boxes in the shelf will solve all four problems, as long as you can live with the look of it. of course, from here you can go anywhere. if you want to get the best sound possible while not using up any of the rear shelf, you should check out my $2400 system at the website above. but then again, i demand more from a system than the average guy would i think. Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]