Hang on here. It took me about 30 seconds on Google to find a pic of a Mustang 4x4: http://people.ucsc.edu/~kbrandt/pics/ It didn't appear to have been a Boss 302, but that comparison just doesn't work. You're comparing a special edition of the total run of Mustangs to the entire run of Deloreans. A fair comparison would be to compare the Boss 302 to say, the Gold Deloreans, or the Factory turbos cars. I haven't seen anyone cutting any of those up. Anyone with any intelligence knows that often (not always), the cars that get severly customized, were the victims of some sort of damage and are now in their "second lives". To be honest, I've been to some car shows where there were some "daily driver" Deloreans that were flat out embarrassing. (coat-hangers, duct tape and dirt) THAT pulls down a marque. I can hear the spectators now, "It can't be that valuable if he won't even wash it." I myself am not into the monster truck thing, but come on, the thing won at the World of Wheels! (Congrats Rich!) An "unmodified", droopy-door, ripped-seat, falling-headliner, warped fascia daily driver Delorean cannot be a better reflection on the marque than Rich's custom. I'll go back to what I said on the front page of my website: "I respect quality.." (in any form). Most of the customs out there have been disassembled and restored to a level that the average Delorean has not. So in my opinion, if there's a problem with some car's reflecting negatively on the marque, it's not the customs, it's the poorly maintained/neglected cars. Steve (builder of the HIGHLY MODIFIED, Project Delorean) www.projectdelorean.com (update soon, I promise) --- Louie Golden <louie@xxxx> wrote: > OK... here I go again on a rant... lol. Here's my > opinions on the show, and the rash of heavily > altered cars that have come down the pipeline these > last couple of years. I agree with Aaron... the show > was insulting to our marque. I agree with Rich W. > that all of these modified cars bring attention to > the DeLorean, and they may possibly stir interest in > a car that has been dead for more than two decades. > But here's the catch 22- the fact that people are > making DeLoreans into hover crafts, monster trucks, > convertibles and the like makes the marque even more > of a joke to naysayers. > > I'm going to go back to the tired example of my > Dad's 1969 Mustang "Boss 302." There was a limited > run of these special cars from 1969-1970. During > this time roughly the same amount of Boss 302's were > made as there were DeLoreans were made. Have I ever > seen anyone hack a Boss into a convertible? A > monster truck? A hover craft? I think not. If we > want the world to take our cars seriously, we've got > to stop doing these absolutely retarded things to > the cars. It's getting attention in all the wrong > ways. It just continues the legacy that the DeLorean > is a joke car. > > So how about instead of hacking DeLoreans publicly > and making a fool of the marque, let's get someone > to probe interest in the several car restoration > shows that appear on the Speed Channel and TNN. > There are great shows like "Dream Car Garage" and a > few others. Or try and field interest for Dennis > Gage to do a section on someone's concourse DeLorean > for "My Classic Car." > > Louie Golden > > > --- "Aaron Crocco" <Slider_ten@xxxx> wrote: > Wow, I just finished watching Monster Garage. That > was to say the least, a bit insulting. > > -Aaron Crocco > > _____________________________________________________________ > Pre-order the updated second edition of "DeLorean: > Stainless Steel Illusion" now! Details <a > href="http://www.stainless-steel-illusion.com" > target="_blank">here!</a> > > > To address comments privately to the moderating > team, please address: > moderators@xxxx > > For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for > sale see www.dmcnews.com > > To search the archives or view files, log in at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com