In a message dated 10/12/03 10:03:40 AM Central Daylight Time, doctorDHD@xxxx writes: > With the > ignition switch ON but the engine not running (for safety) you should > measure > 0 volts at throttle closed, ie idle and about 12 volts when the throttle is > opened and the switch opens. You should also be able to hear the vacuum > solenoid click, ie switch when you open the throttle. Unplugging the vacuum > solenoid > allows you to check the switch using the continuity method because it > isolated the switch from those other circuits. Let me know. List, i have checked voltage across my idle speed switch and i only get about 7.8 volts when the car is at idle, and zero when the throttle is open. surely this is not enough juice to make the solenoid work? i also checked voltage at the pin giving power to the black/green wire (pin 8) on the idle speed ECU - it only reads about 8 volts. the pin that gives power to the ECU reads 11.9 volts. it seems as though somewhere i am losing juice inside the idle ECU. it should also be of note that when the car is in the ON position, my idle speed motor hums. perhaps there is a link between the two? or is my idle ECU fried? Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]