Darryl, Read the plugs, if it's starting ok but having a hard time running then you may have a fuel dumping problem. Take out a plug and go to the plug cart on the web site to see the condition. If the car is flooding they should be black. There are several things that could cause this. Warm up regulator/Control pressure regulator, Idle speed motor not opening, idle speed micro switch not working, vacuum problems, control plunger out of adjustment and more. John Hervey www.specialTauto.com -----Original Message----- From: Swoyerzone@xxxx [mailto:Swoyerzone@xxxx] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 8:12 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [DML] Starting and low idle > I drove the car just about all day and noticed that the probelm > was really the starting but that it would struggle to stay running, > the idle seem to be to low. other times it worked fine. I must > have started the car over 15 times today (a lot of driving) and > only had it act up twice. once when it needed me to pump the gas > which then the car would jerk after i put it in gear like it was > going to stall unless i pumped the gas more. The other two times > it would just need my help to get to a high idle, if i pumped the > gas after it started so it wouldn't stall. But after a few mins > I ran just fine. > > Darryl > 5898