Louie G and I ran into pack of rice burners at a fast food restaurant on the way to SEDOC. Wings, gee whiz decals, the works. Met them again on a Georgia interstate hill. Easily accelerated past. Never saw them again after that. Is a difference between HP and torque. Seem to remember someone once told me HP measured at "top of the engine" and torque "at the bottom". Think what they meant was torque translates into actual power delivered to wheels. PRV has surprising bottom end grunt. Performance certainly adequate off the line (is not going to embarass you at a stop light). Where it really shines is under load. Do have to drop back into 4th gear on really steep grades (overdrive gearing), but it's steady 75 mph rest of the way to top. Drive I-95 hills north of Richmond many times every year. Only vehicles that can maintain speed are my old model Lincolns (of course), SUV's, and the DeLorean. We play leap frog: rice burners etc shoot past on the downhill side, then I overtake on the way back up. Bill Robertson #5939 >--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Richard" <dmc_driver@xxxx> wrote: > > However, when you pull up to one of those annoying "rice-rockets" with > the shopping cart wings, the fart-can exhaust pipes and the obsencely > loud stereos at a red light, you know darn well that despite how > ridiculous they are, that Honda or Toyota probably has more horsepower > than your DMC. Sad but true. >