Joe, See below. My 2 cents John Hervey www.specialTauto.com -----Original Message----- From: Joe Angell [mailto:jangell@xxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 2:05 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Cooling fans and the ignition I have a curious problem with my DeLorean: Let's say I take the car out for the day. During my trip it gets hot enough that the cooling fans come on. At this point, if you turn the car off and then try to turn it back on again, it won't start. ( You mean won't start or won't turn over like the power is gone. ( Were the fans turned on by the otterstat or the AC compressor.) I noticed that while the ignition is tripped, ( Does tripped mean on or is the key in the off position.) everything is off in the car -- except the cooling fans. More often than not, the solution is to pull open the relay compartment and pull out the cooling fan relay; the car starts right up then ( was the AC compressor clutch engauged wnen this happened.) Anyone else seen this? Shouldn't the fans also be off when you turn the ignition so the starter can get enough power? ( not if the main relay didn't release or the fan relay is sticking. If so The Fan Fix Dual 2 x 2 will fix it. ) I've also noticed that on the other cars I've owned, the cooling fans stay on when the car is off if it is still too hot. I notice this does not happen on the DeLorean; the fans go off with the car. Is this normal? ( This feature wasn't built into the Delorean. If they were to stay on any length of time to do anything major good, the coolant would be in the radiator only because the water pump is no longer turning to circulate the coolant and the thermostat is closed. Also the newer cooling fans only draw 1/2 the current that the Delorean 28 amps do. It wouldn't take long to draw a marginal battery down so the car wouldn't start.) Also, my relays seem to get quite hot, so it looks like I'll be tightening the sockets this weekend. ( Which relay's are getting hot.) John Hervey www.specialTauto.com Thanks! -- Joe To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/