Bill, I think the last time I heard the sucking sound was when our friend in Dallas H. Ross Perot was running for the Presidental office and was against Nafta and he kept refering to all the business going to Mexico and a big sucking sound out of the U.S. The current amount consumed by the ECU's and Idle speed motor almost less than a brake light or two. Did you know or think about it. A 24 watt brake light at 12 volts is 2amps. When you step on the brakes with the blinker on at night your drawing almost 8 to 10 amps. I posted information on the DML last year about the current draw. There are good lower current bulbs to over come 1/2 of the currrent drawn in the explaination above. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com I need old spark plug wires. -----Original Message----- From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson@xxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:31 PM To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [DML] Heater Core Shut Off Valve Xref Just bought a 5/8" heater core shut off valve for one of my Lincolns. 100% match to stock DeLo. Little more expensive than the single piece tower, but I figured car was worth it: Factory Air #74671 $26 at AutozoneAdvance also sells Factory Air Re: Lambda ECU thread -- have finally removed mine from car (no frequency valve). As far as I know is still good. Am trying to trade with a vendor for spare Bosch plug wire (or two). If that transaction doesn't materialize will make same deal to anyone on list... O2 sensor already given away. BTW: anyone know how much juice Lamda and idle speed ECU's suck up? Am hoping removal reduces alternator load. Have been told onboard electronics are reason for today's big alternators, but I still suspect coil packs have something to do with it. Bill Robertson #5939 To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: moderators@xxxx For more info on the list, tech articles, cars for sale see www.dmcnews.com To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/