My thanks to Robert to adding his opposing point of view to this discussion. While he did not agree with me we had a great discussion and I thoroughly enjoyed it. From the side comments I think many of you did as well. On the other hand I had one individual that prefered profanity and goating. This list and the DeLorean Community do not need that. Its been great and I hope this thread is at its end. This is my final post on the subject. Remember that the result of all of this should be to have a car ready to raffle at Pigeon Forge. The goal is to restore a car so that it is driveable and could be used as a daily driver at the least not a car that is raffled with work still to be done to get it to work. Any volunteers I need all the help I can get LOL thanks Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]