Ken doesn't run a chop shop or meat market hospital with no morals. Ken's intentions were restoration, but this donor was all ready dead and had the organ donor sticker on the lower left front windshield ;-) I went to inspect this car and was with Ken when he purchased it acting as his extra set of eyes. At first sight the car was emaculent (sp?), stainless was perfect. As we got closer we could see the damage. Since Ken's description wasn't overly detailed let me add just a little more detail from what I saw: The use to be grey interior looked like a beige grand canyon, cracked dash etc. from years of sun. Ripped out leather, stuffing, padding all over interior from the prior inhabitants. Almost couldn't find the relay compartment because of it. Passenger window was cardboard & duct tape. The car sat outside for years in mud up over the axles. Air intake & fuel distributor were in the trunk. Layers of rodent fecal had to be scraped away to find the throttle & intake, which was seized. Good thing I guess so the innards of the engine should be salvageable. The front crumple tube & frame was infested with rust, both surface and big holes eat'n thru. Sure Ken could have let this car sit there and continue to rot. Sure someone with an insane amount of money and time could have purchased this car and restored it. But think of the other positive side to this, think of all the cars this car can restore by sharing the good parts it has, now, before they rot away like the rest of the car. "I'm no longer a destroyer, I'm a means of resurrection, now we restore, we revive . . ." - Robert Duvall as Otto in 'Gone in 60 Seconds' Shannon Y 16506 ---------------- From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxx> Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:41 am Subject: Re: [DML] Delorean parting out parts available <snip> Problem is, organ donation only happens after a donor is dead! Doctors don't look at patients and say, "Well gee, it's going to take much more work than I'm willing to put in to save your husband's life Mrs. Jones. But don't feel bad, 'cause we're going to part out his vital organs, so that other people may live. So don't feel so bad about the loss." And that is exactly what was said here, looking at this quote from the original post: Quote directly from Ken K, owner of the doomed car: "Well Vin 5690 has been with me for about 3 weeks and I have gone through the emotions of rebuilding, refurbishing, or parting it out. After looking at the options this could be a $5000 car that cost $15K to fix and result in a $14K car that still has a way to go. So it is going the e-bay route." >From what has been described, this isn't a car that's had any devistating damage to it from a wreck, or a fire. It doesn't appear to even have a wasted chassis from rust damage. It is simply a car that needs an intense passion to fuel it's restoration. Someone who is more concerned with owning/keeping a DeLorean on the road, rather than what the monetary value of the car will be once a restoration is complete, as quoted above. To Ken K: I'm not trying to attack you, but I do disagree with you on both points: 1. The end value of the car can be much higher than what you are anticipating. NADA right now puts fully restored/original vehicles at a value of almost $28,000. Yes, it will require an immense amount of work, but it can be done. 2. The car is worth saving. Even I realize that you can't just store a car until that perfect owner comes along wanting to restore it. And classic cars needing this much work won't always sell as quickly as road operational ones, especially automatics. But this could easily have been avoided simply by not purchasing the car. Which is the absolute, #1 cardinal rule when looking to buy a DeLorean. And if we learn nothing else, always remember it: *ALWAYS* inspect a car that you will potentially be buying IN PERSON FIRST BEFORE COMMITING TO PURCHASE! Words to live, and drive by. -Robert vin 6585 "X" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com