--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Henry" <henry@xxxx> wrote: > > Speaking of Red Line, what is the general consensus of Red Line "Complete Fuel System Cleaner"? The shop where I got my MSD coil was really touting it, and for only $8 I bought it. But before I use it, I'm curious to hear if anyone thinks I *shouldn't* use it. And if you do use it, how much do you put into a full tank? Thanks. > > http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/si1ti.htm > > -Hank #1619 Don't have an experience with Red Line's fuel treatment, but if it were me, I'd just take it back. A while back there was a discussion on the list here about the negative effects of fuel system treatments, and the neutral ones of why there simply a waste of money for the most part. Check the back archives for some really interesting details. But for the most part, you're just paying for extra detergents that are already in your fuel at the pump. And with a properly operating and maintained car, they're not nessisary. On top of this, NONE of these products that I've ever seen are one time only. They all insist that you keep using them over and over again. There intentional design is to spurn revolving sales, with cleaning your fuel system 2nd. And when you look at what they're supposed to be doing, they're actually not nessisary. And when you think about it, how exactly are they able to help the fuel system in ways that you can't? If the pick-up screen, or fuel filter is clogged, you're gonna need to pull and replace them anyways. And if there is any debris in the fuel lines, hoses, rails, etc, you're gonna need to pull them for cleaning, because you've got bigger problems that have caused that problem in the first place. If you want to keep carbon deposits down, just run the engine at normal speeds, and for a prolonged enough time where you can heat things up internally, and run as low an octane gasoline as possible. After replacing the dirty fuel injectors in my car, I run smoth as silk on 87 octane. Even in triple digit heat, and with hotter plugs & spark from the coil. The only additive that I've ever heard anyone agree upon is Chevron's Techron detergent. And even then, if you run a quality gasoline with decent detergents, it's not nessisary. And this was the advice given to me by my mechnaic. He poured a bottle in to help with the initial removal of the carbon in the engine, after I kept failing smog. His advice to me was to stick with running Chevron for atleast a few months, but preferably permanently if possible. And if I stuck with it, or at leasnt name-brand gasoline, then I woulnd't need to add it back in, since I already get the same detergent out of the pump. -Robert vin 6585 "X"