You're not the minority Bill, While you're ALL THE WAY down in that area of the engine, why not remove 4 more bolts. I broke a bolt on the pump.. but the four on the internal water pipe weren't even hard to remove for me. Granted; you can't just leave on out (like I did the water pump's) if it breaks. But be careful Mark, when putting in those little orings.. it's easy to knock one out of place and end up pinching it with the water pipe... then when you don't test the pressure cooling system and just put everything back together... you'll have twice the fun doing it all all over again. But who the hell would put everything back together with testing the pressure?? Surely not me. Step two is giving up and shipping the car to Grady, and spending twice what you had expected. And knowing it was worth every penny. And if you're not already -- give the car a tune up, and replace the spark plugs and etc and fuel injectors while you have the intake manifold off. Then pray. -James L 004009