In a message dated 5/9/03 8:48:08 AM Central Daylight Time, MPolzin@xxxx writes: > Mark, > Do not remove this pipe, there is no reason to do it and you will surely > bust off a bolt trying its almost inevitable. > > Mike Polzin I would remove this pipe anyway though, just to replace the o-rings under the pipe and to clean all that crap out from underneath it. you won't break anything if you heat the bolts up with a propane torch, give them a few good taps, then quickly bust them loose. if go slowly, you have a greater chance of breaking seized fasteners than if you 'shock' the bolts into turning. heat and vibration help a lot too. in fact i swear never to try to remove anything from my car again w/o a torch!! Andy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]