Just to clarify a point: while I chose not to wait for Bob's launchers, I am a stong supporter of his products. I have both a FanZilla and a LockZilla on my car that were first installed on my previous DeLorean. They had been on that car for over 10 years when I traded it on my present DeLorean. They worked so well, I had them transferred over. Now, 6 years later, they are STILL performing flawlessly. Yes, it is said that "patience is a virtue"; BUT, no one has ever said that I am virtuous. Dick Ryan VIN 16867 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com