Passing emissions without Lamda

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxx>]

Car had current PA emission sticker when I bought it...

But is moot point without catalytic converter. I'm sure Lamda worked
OK when cars left factory 22 years ago. My concern would be how well
system ages. If my idle speed system was indicative, answer is "not
well" (and apparently I'm not the only one with schizophrenic idle
speed motor/ECU). Last thing I want back there is a fuel metering
device that can't make up its mind. Warm up regulator is complicated
enough WITHOUT any electronics.

No one is amazed when factory radio dies. Problems with door lock
electronics are legendary. Yet people expect Lamda system to remain
flawless. Go figure.

Bill Robertson
#5939 (simple but reliable)

>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Harold McElraft" <hmcelraft@xxxx> wrote:
> If the fuel system has no Lambda then it is not K-jetronic. I doubt 
> if the engine could pass an emissions test in the US.
> 
> Harold McElraft - 3354
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > Hate to throw sand in the gears, but my PRV runs excellent with
> > absolutely no Lamda system whatsoever. As soon as I get out of this
> > sling & wrap will drive the vehicle (fast and smooth) to a fellow 
> w/
> > digital camera to document (if you look closely at pics in #5939's
> > photo album you can see what I'll zoom in on -- no frequency 
> valve, no
> > line to lower chambers, capped O2 sensor bung). True, my fuel
> > distributor may be different internally (Martin G, could you get
> > Darren to look into that?). But even if I have no lower chambers,
> > wouldn't simply removing fuel pressure from lower chambers in a DMC
> > unit yield the same result? My fuel distributor has a Bosch ID tag 
> BTW
> > (will quote model number when I get home). Is aluminum.
> > 
> > Bill Robertson
> > #5939
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > A properly
> > set-up and operating PRV won't run right without the lambda 
> system, it
> > adds a little fuel to make the air-fuel ratio correct. With a dead 
> O2
> > sensor the Lambda will revert (fallback) to a fixed value. The big
> > symptom would be a loss of power and terrible acceleration. It is 
> even
> > worse if the Lambda system is dead completely.
> > David Teitelbaum
> > vin 10757
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > You cannot remove the
> > lambda and successfully get an accurate air-fuel ratio across the
> > RPM band without going to another injection setup. Bosch K-Jetronic
> > has to have the lambda to work.
> > Harold McElraft - 3354