David, I will agree with you to a certain extent. But, Everyone isn't as good with tools and bleeding as you and I are and some don't like messing with wrenches at all. This is like the Hot Start relay, when DMC Joe jumped on me because of selling it. My answer was, Wait till you get stopped in the middle of traffic or going cross country and the accumulator goes bad. Then the Hot Start relay really comes in handy. Yes, If everything was perfect we wouldn't need things to treat the symptoms, but sometimes it's OK to treat the symptom till you get to the doctor. If you want to re wire the car, then you wouldn't need The Fan Fix Dual 2 x 2 or the Fan Zilla. But who is going to re wire. Not me. So we treat symptoms and never go to the doctor. John Hervey www.specialtauto.com << I know I am going to start a contoversy but here goes. IMHO the bleeder kit fixes a symptom. Once you have bled the air from your system it will "self bleed" if the air that is still trapped inside is small. The problem most cars have is that they have coolant leaks. When the system cools it draws air in through the leaks. Since the system gets more air in it then it can "self bleed" the auto bleeder seems to "fix" things when in reality you still have the coolant leaks. On the cars I have done a total rebuild of the cooling system and are "tight" they have no problems with air. The bleeder itself isn't a bad thing but be aware that you are only masking a symptom and not deaing with the real problem. If you install the bleeder and EVER have to add coolant you can be sure you have leaks. The bleeder kit is cheaper than going the whole way though and could help you put off the proper repair until a more convienient time. David Teitelbaum vin 10757 >>