I havent posted in a while, but I just had to comment. To me, I consider the automatic to be a girl and the 5sp manual to be the boy of the DeLorean world. My advice to Rich is this, when the reunion takes place of vins 4193 and 4194, dont let your girl crush her little brother. Ok, i'm dumb Tom Porter Vin: Summer 2003 ----------- I find and purchase the Delorean 4x4 > in Texas and ship it up to Illinois, UP-graded it to the D Rex and > and take it to World of Wheels. At the show, a guy comes up to me > and starts talking about a Delorean he owns and has been restoring > for several years. I realized the owner of that project D, > Andrew, was posting to the DML with a very familiar looking VIN. > The D Rex is VIN...4193 and Andrew's car is VIN...4194. After the > cars spent most of their life over 1,000 miles apart, both of these > cars are now reside only about an hour away from each other. Andrew > and I are planning a reunion between these two siblings this year. > Rich W.