List, thank you very much for all the tips with my car. i am experienced enough to know by now that when the car ran perfect the last time you started it and now it won't start at all, it's nothing to panic about!! it's usually something very simple that will make you go 'DOHH!' exactly the same in this case. i gave up in the relay box and opened the engine bay. first thing i saw was the piggy-backed wire on the upper right ignition resistor prong had broken off the 2/1 connector. a quick trip to the hardware store for a new connector and it started up right away. it just goes to show that even when you think you are positive about something, it is always good to double-check your assumptions!! how the wire broke i have no clue since i wasn't in there since it was running last, but oh well. simple fix for a stupid problem, as usual! as for the battery sparking - that's my next order of buisness. luckily i will be able to make my stereo installation appointment on monday so i can report the results early next week! Thanks as always, Andy Soma576@xxxx 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596 Fargo, ND 58102 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]